never wrote:this is the second time we have been called 'hateful' and 'disrespectful' and to be honest i just find that a clear sign of immaturity. maybe what we're saying is ''disrespectful'' only because you do not agree and dont understand where we are coming from / want to understand our point of view.
edit: i am referring to the hate + ideas whatever post. we do not mean to come from a place of hatred at all, but honestly i and others are tired of trying to get things through OP's mind / being heard and not even getting the right recognition a '''''' for the 'community guide''''''' owner would give.
You aren’t quite hearing me, the disrespect is NOT from disagreeing or criticizing. It’s from tone, which is difficult to read in text but some people feel the need to be overly sarcastic and passive-aggressive and it’s very clear that’s their intention.
I’ve said this many, many times?
Look at the difference in how things are being approached
From where I’m standing, at least, opposers come on the attack with the notion of evil demand lists and such. Note how I haven’t responded to people stating their opinions/concerns without feeling the need to be backhanded or try to tell op that they, in some way, are “not allowed.”
I believe that how quick everyone is to go up in arms when I mention they’ve not been especially kind shows just what I’m talking about, if you never came from a place of aggressiveness you’d have no worries. And you wouldn’t need to call me immature without addressing anything else I said aside from the initial comment about not treating op well.
This is the second time the opposing side has been called immature, as well.
You ARE being heard, and she has been working to make it so that it WONT Be like the old list but there’s been so little talk of actually HOW you think it could be prevented (aside from her not making it at all..) that there’s very little she could do to settle your unease.
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To @Horror
As mentioned above, I’m not saying you’re disrespectful for disagreeing- but just as you said, there’s a right and wrong way to go about things. And although much of it has been cleaned up, many users have been far less than kind. :,0
For example, calling the notion idiotic (as it has been called)
Is not a good way to go about things
Giving backhanded luck, is not s good way to go about things
Responding with sarcastic “lol” and snippy answers to people giving suggestions, is not s good way to go about things
I personally don’t think you were disrespectful at all toward me or anyone else. You tried to understand and see it from my view,
And I appreciate that but-
The list has one (1) pet placed thus far and it’s not even definitely placed there.
Nobody has given ways to avoid making the list like the other, they’ve simply had it set in stone that it isn’t Going to work out and that nothing will prevent it from being an awful mess.
There was the suggestion of adding successful trades demonstrating the value, so you couldn’t profit push And claim you’re pet is misplaced.
As you’ve read, that was shot down on the grounds that people would falsify trades with their friends.
Which imo is very far fetched and elaborate to fake over an extended time period.
OP continuing on with the list is giving it a chance to be something good and useful. I agree that it needs a further name change and explanation so that we don’t mislead into the whole “follow this list or die” pathway.
But it hasn’t even been given a chance at all?
And as for don’t include demand in a list.
Demand the only reason any valuable pet has any value at all ever. Rarity and demand shouldn’t Be mixed because they are different And like to mesh, but a demand list can Be incredibly beneficial if done right.